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WingTzun vs. The B.O.B 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
This thread is a discussion about WingTzun vs. The B.O.B video.
Why not hit it properly and save your energy?
 
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Re:WingTzun vs. The B.O.B 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Hi shaun, do you have a link to the video?
 
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Re:WingTzun vs. The B.O.B 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
From what I gather, wing tzun is all about releasing extremely fast chains of strikes to take opponents by surprise. Its like the difference between sprinting and jogging.
 
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Re:WingTzun vs. The B.O.B 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
btw isn't wing tzun a chinese ma? why is this thread in the korean ma section?
 
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Re:WingTzun vs. The B.O.B 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
oh, did someone change it or was I misstaken? (wow, 3 posts in a row )
 
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Re:WingTzun vs. The B.O.B 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Hi mule its in the tv section and click on tutorials
 
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Re:WingTzun vs. The B.O.B 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
From what I gather, wing tzun is all about releasing extremely fast chains of strikes to take opponents by surprise. Its like the difference between sprinting and jogging.

That kind of stuff can get you hurt in a real life situation. B.O.B is weighted and does not respond in the same manner a human being would when hit. Training choreographed is only good for show and impressing new students.
 
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Re:WingTzun vs. The B.O.B 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I've never been a fan of show off videos in any martial art.

A demonstration video is fine but i can't stand people whole do it half naked. You don't have to be ripped to do WT, infact one of its main ideologies is that you should be able to do it at any fitness level. So just cuz you are muscled and sweaty doesn't mean you need to take your top off to demonstrate it

Love the term 'The BOB' though. Genius.
 
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Re:WingTzun vs. The B.O.B 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
meditator wrote:
From what I gather, wing tzun is all about releasing extremely fast chains of strikes to take opponents by surprise. Its like the difference between sprinting and jogging.

Not really. In a nutshell its about sensitivity to your opponents movement allowing you to defend/attack simultaneously.

Below are some principles from the Wiki page.

Fighting Principles (From the Wiki page)

Go forward Advance immediately in order to establish contact with the limbs (allowing for Chi Sao reflexes to take over) or — even better — to strike first. This counterintuitive reaction will often surprise the attacker, and moves the fight into a close distance in which tactile reflexes will dominate over visual reactions, where the Wing Tsun practitioner is likely to have an advantage.


Stick to the opponent
If you are unable to strike and disable your opponent, but instead make contact with some part of his body (other than his face, throat, etc.), stick to it. Often this will be an opponent's arm; if you maintain constant contact with his arms, how can he launch an attack at you without your knowing? This applies for the time only when the opponent is blocking your shortest way of attack. Once there is opportunity, you give up sticking, and go in with your attack (flow).


Yield to a greater force
Since one cannot expect to be stronger than every potential attacker, one must train in such a way as to be able to win even against a stronger opponent. Chi Sao teaches the reflexes necessary to react to an opponent's attacks. When an attack is simply stronger than yours, your trained reflexes will tell your body to move out of the way of the attack and find another angle for attack.


Follow through
As an extension of the first principle, if an opponent retreats, a WingTsun practitioner's immediate response is to continue moving forward, not allowing the opponent to regroup and have an opportunity to reconsider his strategy of attack. Many styles that rely on visual cues prefer to step back and wait and time their attacks, as commonly seen in sport and tournament fighting.
 
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Re:WingTzun vs. The B.O.B 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Yield to a greater force
Since one cannot expect to be stronger than every potential attacker, one must train in such a way as to be able to win even against a stronger opponent. Chi Sao teaches the reflexes necessary to react to an opponent's attacks. When an attack is simply stronger than yours, your trained reflexes will tell your body to move out of the way of the attack and find another angle for attack.


That article is a very good one but could do with expanding. Chi Sao has many other components but is watered down considerably these days.

If you translate the words Chi Sao it can open up a hole can of worms
 
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Re:WingTzun vs. The B.O.B 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Hahah couldn't agree more. Lets not go there.
 
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