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old saying 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
have you heard the old saying "the best form of defence is attack"
i was thinking about this the other day, and yea shure when you charge in whilst sparing you tend to score points but if you carefuly wait for an opening in your opponents guard it works equaly as well. my question is what do you think the best form of defence is.(attack or defence)


also does this mean the best fourm of attack is defence
 
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Re:old saying 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Mister Miyagi RIP

"Best defence, no be there"
 
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Re:old saying 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
mule wrote:
Mister Miyagi RIP

"Best defence, no be there"


Amen to that.
 
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Re:old saying 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Yes - my teacher used to say that we had to learn to be fast with our feet...so we could run away...
 
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Re:old saying 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
£tbest£ wrote:
have you heard the old saying "the best form of defence is attack"
i was thinking about this the other day, and yea shure when you charge in whilst sparing you tend to score points but if you carefuly wait for an opening in your opponents guard it works equaly as well. my question is what do you think the best form of defence is.(attack or defence)


also does this mean the best fourm of attack is defence


Tacks can also be sharp things to carry around in your pocket....
 
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Re:old saying 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Tacks can also be sharp things to carry around in your pocket....

haha yeah.
 
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Re:old saying 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
When sparring (ie.. no where to run) you should vary between defence and attack or your opponent will sus your system out.

On the street if you cant run make sure you are being attacked before you counter as one of my top fighters found out recently. Some drunk SOB comes at him shouting and calling him all the names under the sun, takes his jacket of and even spits at him. There are two of them and he is on his own with two women. As the guy comes at him he reacts and gives the guy a single blow to the chin. Hes a hard fighter so i know how that would have felt.. ouch! the guy goes down and hits his head big time. Police, court etc.. GBH standard is 18 months, he got away with 6 months due to the mitigating circumstances! so I guess dont hit first is the second option (RLF being the first)
 
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Re:old saying 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I never got this running thing... what happens if your opponent can run faster? Is turning your back on an opponent (particularly if he is armed) a good idea? At my age and with my knees running isn't an option.
 
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Re:old saying 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
We learn to attack the attack. Why wait for it to gain power and momentum. That doesn't mean just go and punch someone because he looks at you funny. It simply means that you need to trust your instincts and be focused. Be a judge of a situation, tac-tics, calmness, strategy is all part of MA.

I would sum the situation up and if I had to with no other option I wouldn't wait for someone to throw a punch fully at me, I'd intercept before it connects, and anyone else around I'd go for because i'm not gonna deal with them throwimg fists at me, I want to dominate them not the other way round.

Then I would walk away....




In reality probably get hit fall to the floor and be pounded
 
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Re:old saying 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
In self-defense, I agree with the "no be there" philosophy. (And since I prefer to evade rather than absorb hits, it also applies to sport fighting.) In the self-defense context, why be there in the first place? I practice sprints regularly. But, like Steve Rowe mentioned, I know I'm not the fastest kid on the block. You have to wonder about people who follow arguments out of the bar, or who put themselves in other touchy situations -- like maybe they're the ones actually looking for a fight?

In sport fighting, when you are actually looking for a fight, your strategy really depends on your opponent, doesn't it? £tbest£ wrote:when you charge in whilst sparing you tend to score points but if you carefuly wait for an opening in your opponents guard it works equaly as wellTaking the offense (charging in) works well against very timid or very aggressive opponents, but a counter-fighter (someone who waits for an opening) will pick you apart.

To use another old saying, "attack your enemy's strength." If your opponent relies on counter-fighting, for instance, don't rush in and play into his game; instead, attack his ability to counter -- for example, wait him out until he gets frustrated, or use lots of feints, or, if he's a long-range counter-fighter, eat a punch so you can get in and smother him. Similarly, if he or she prefers to rush in, invite them in and make them pay so they become afraid to use the aggressiveness that they normally rely on.

Maybe all this means that the best defense is awareness -- of your opponent(s) and of your environment.
 
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