"The immutable law of such teaching as ours is that one should balance knowledge with the level of one's being."

So,
Have you ever experienced this? Have you ever been told something by your teacher, and either not understood or dismissed it out of hand as irrelevant, only to find out through much time and training that what your teacher said was right?

Teachers,
Do you try to gain an understanding of your student's 'being'?

Over to you all

Bailu Taiji wrote:
"The immutable law of such teaching as ours is that one should balance knowledge with the level of one's being."

So,
Have you ever experienced this?

Yes

Have you ever been told something by your teacher, and either not understood or dismissed it out of hand as irrelevant, only to find out through much time and training that what your teacher said was right?

Yes

Teachers,
Do you try to gain an understanding of your student's 'being'?

Yes

Over to you all

Next set of questions

Ha ha!

Nice, in-depth answers there TQ

So, how important do you feel it is for a teacher to have this awareness of 'being', in himself and his students??

Don't limit your answers to the size of a postage stamp

LMAO,
Thought you would like that BT

Depends on the teacher and the student. If the student is to learn this and wants to learn this awareness of 'being' it is vitally important!

However, if someone just wants to "go through the motions" then neither truly need it.

It has been my exp. though that if a teacher has this sense of 'being' they are a better teacher. I simply say this because then they have a better idea of how to teach and the best way to teach for each individual student. Some may call this a "natural" teacher but it is more than that.

A teacher that has reached a good sense of 'being' -understands- himself and what he is teaching. There is a difference between 'knowing' and 'understanding'. For example:

You can -know- how to do a move, you've done it a 1000 times. Someone does 'A' and you do 'B' simple. So 'A' = 'B'

But to -understand- how to do a move, you've done 1000 times is different. Someone may do 'A' but you all of the sudden do 'Z' as though it were 'B'. So 'A' = limitless applications.

No doubt you have exp. this in TCC, where some teachers say "Grasphing the Sparrow's tail" is -does- this. But the teachers that understand say: "It is good for -that-, but also does this and this and this...."

Big difference in skill levels.

"The immutable law of such teaching as ours is that one should balance knowledge with the level of one's being."Honestly? I'm not sure I even know what that's supposed to mean - let alone what it does mean!

Have you ever experienced this?Well, if I had, I wouldn't know as I don't understand the terminology. Can you explain it, Bailu?
Have you ever been told something by your teacher, and either not understood or dismissed it out of hand as irrelevant, only to find out through much time and training that what your teacher said was right?Yeah loads of times - all the time. How about yourself?

Teachers,
Do you try to gain an understanding of your student's 'being'?I don't try to do anything - I either do it or I don't do it. I teach the best way I can and adjust based on feedback. Sometimes I teach in a very obscure and abstract way. I wouldn't rule out anything tbh!
To me all beings are 'being' it's just a question of how aware the person is of said 'being', I suppose.
The original statement sounds profound but could do with some clarification imho...

Butterfly wrote:
"The immutable law of such teaching as ours is that one should balance knowledge with the level of one's being."Honestly? I'm not sure I even know what that's supposed to mean - let alone what it does mean!

I think you expressed it once as "You can't appeal to a level of conciousness that doesn't exist". It was either you or our mutual Welsh friend. It's a similar concept, I believe.


Have you ever been told something by your teacher, and either not understood or dismissed it out of hand as irrelevant, only to find out through much time and training that what your teacher said was right?Yeah loads of times - all the time. How about yourself?

Often! Haha
The more I practice, the more I experience it, when things from long ago come back and taps me on the back of my head.


Teachers,
Do you try to gain an understanding of your student's 'being'?I don't try to do anything - I either do it or I don't do it. I teach the best way I can and adjust based on feedback. Sometimes I teach in a very obscure and abstract way. I wouldn't rule out anything tbh!
To me all beings are 'being' it's just a question of how aware the person is of said 'being', I suppose.
The original statement sounds profound but could do with some clarification imho...



I think that is essentially it, right there.
Everyone is "being", but how deep they are in their own "being" denotes what level of understanding they can glean from a certain teaching.

My teacher does that to me alot!! Sometimes he will say things to the class but direct certain parts to certain people depneding on rank. My Sensei really blows my mind sometimes, and get me thinking but it's alays on a level I can eventually understand. I think the same goes with everyone as he clarifies to different ranks what bit they should be thinking about with some things he comes out with!

I think that with any teacher they are to innovate students, instructors just duplicate what they see and pass it on.

I don't know what happened but a bug made it look like I posted from another tread in this area of the forum!!

Weird... BUG ALERT!!

Yeah, I was getting the Ryusui_Ryu. If I posted a reply to this thread, it would post but then redirect me to the old old Parkour thread. The same if I clicked the link in the email notification.

Someone feed the hamsters, they're slowing down again!

Perhaps the server has gained a sense of 'being' and has started some existential experimentation of its own.

The whole point of all of us is to be, its what we're here for.

Maybe I'm wierd but I never gainsay my sensei, if he says something I try it first and then, and only then, will I tell him he is talking s**t,......... from a safe distance of course

I dont try to gain a sense of a students 'being', I try to let that 'being' emerge as i contunue to train with them and teach them. the 'being' will make itself known over time.

I think that without a sense of being while practicing martial arts, you just become someone elses reflection.